1 00:00:06,470 --> 00:00:02,550 you're listening to irn 2 00:00:15,829 --> 00:00:06,480 the inception radio network chicago 3 00:00:24,870 --> 00:00:19,830 you're listening to irn 2014 order zone 4 00:00:28,830 --> 00:00:26,790 our next speaker 5 00:00:31,589 --> 00:00:28,840 will be dennis 6 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:31,599 balthaser now dennis is one of the top 7 00:00:36,950 --> 00:00:32,880 u.s 8 00:00:38,869 --> 00:00:36,960 investigators of ufo phenomenon 9 00:00:41,510 --> 00:00:38,879 okay he has worked in 10 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:41,520 the texas highway department in el paso 11 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:44,640 for 33 years and his interest in ufos 12 00:00:50,229 --> 00:00:48,399 led him to move to roswell new mexico 13 00:00:53,430 --> 00:00:50,239 there he became the lead investigator 14 00:00:55,350 --> 00:00:53,440 for the roswell ufo museum and also 15 00:00:56,830 --> 00:00:55,360 served on its board of directors for 16 00:00:59,910 --> 00:00:56,840 several 17 00:01:03,029 --> 00:00:59,920 years he's a certified ufo investigator 18 00:01:05,109 --> 00:01:03,039 with mufon a mutual ufo network 19 00:01:07,750 --> 00:01:05,119 and dennis has been widely recognized 20 00:01:10,550 --> 00:01:07,760 for his research in the roswell incident 21 00:01:13,109 --> 00:01:10,560 as well as area 51 22 00:01:15,190 --> 00:01:13,119 underground bases and the mysteries of 23 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:15,200 the egyptian pyramids 24 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:17,280 so i'd like to introduce you right now 25 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:27,030 thank you 26 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:28,640 for the past several years i've been 27 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:30,720 concentrating my research 28 00:01:35,670 --> 00:01:34,400 on the 1947 russell incident area 51 up 29 00:01:37,590 --> 00:01:35,680 in nevada 30 00:01:39,749 --> 00:01:37,600 and underground basis 31 00:01:41,590 --> 00:01:39,759 and i'll talk about all those three in 32 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:41,600 this presentation 33 00:01:47,190 --> 00:01:44,320 i'll talk about roswell because after 67 34 00:01:49,590 --> 00:01:47,200 years it refuses to go away 35 00:01:51,429 --> 00:01:49,600 area 51 because for the most part 36 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:51,439 according to our government 37 00:01:55,109 --> 00:01:53,280 it hasn't existed 38 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:55,119 and under grace underground basis 39 00:01:58,950 --> 00:01:56,880 because our government is simply lying 40 00:02:02,310 --> 00:01:58,960 to us about that 41 00:02:04,230 --> 00:02:02,320 in addition to that research in 2001 42 00:02:07,270 --> 00:02:04,240 i was asked to join the great pyramids 43 00:02:08,869 --> 00:02:07,280 the giza advisory board in egypt 44 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:08,879 and that's some research i want to share 45 00:02:12,229 --> 00:02:10,399 with you also 46 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:12,239 so we have a lot to cover and i'm 47 00:02:16,070 --> 00:02:14,400 hopeful that when i get through 48 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:16,080 you'll find it interesting and both 49 00:02:19,750 --> 00:02:17,760 informative 50 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:19,760 this research i've chosen 51 00:02:24,949 --> 00:02:22,000 to dedicate my life to is controversial 52 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:24,959 at times and requires a tough older skin 53 00:02:28,710 --> 00:02:26,800 when the debunkers and the critics start 54 00:02:31,190 --> 00:02:28,720 getting after you 55 00:02:32,710 --> 00:02:31,200 trust me the research and study apology 56 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:32,720 is more difficult 57 00:02:36,710 --> 00:02:34,879 than anything i dealt with in my 33 58 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:36,720 years with the texas highway department 59 00:02:40,869 --> 00:02:38,800 in civil engineering 60 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:40,879 now because of my brutal honesty i've 61 00:02:44,550 --> 00:02:42,640 been fortunate in that i've not been 62 00:02:46,229 --> 00:02:44,560 questioned too often 63 00:02:47,830 --> 00:02:46,239 and when i have been i prefer to go 64 00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:47,840 public with it 65 00:02:51,350 --> 00:02:50,160 exposing the critics reveal their true 66 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:51,360 nature 67 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:54,080 which in most cases is attacking people 68 00:02:57,670 --> 00:02:56,560 rather than data it's a lot easier to do 69 00:02:59,509 --> 00:02:57,680 that 70 00:03:01,190 --> 00:02:59,519 i find out through the years of sharing 71 00:03:02,790 --> 00:03:01,200 information with the public whether 72 00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:02,800 through my website 73 00:03:07,110 --> 00:03:04,640 television or radio interviews 74 00:03:08,869 --> 00:03:07,120 editorials or lectures 75 00:03:10,149 --> 00:03:08,879 there is a common denominator that 76 00:03:11,430 --> 00:03:10,159 prevails 77 00:03:12,949 --> 00:03:11,440 truth 78 00:03:15,670 --> 00:03:12,959 and allowing people to make their own 79 00:03:17,110 --> 00:03:15,680 decisions always wins out 80 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:17,120 you're here because you have some 81 00:03:21,430 --> 00:03:18,959 interest in the subject 82 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:21,440 or perhaps out of curiosity 83 00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:23,120 so what i'll simply be doing in this 84 00:03:27,190 --> 00:03:24,400 presentation 85 00:03:28,790 --> 00:03:27,200 is sharing some of my research with you 86 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:28,800 that i've obtained over the years and 87 00:03:33,110 --> 00:03:30,239 i'll let you decide if you want to 88 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:33,120 believe it or not there's a tremendous 89 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:34,959 amount of substantial information 90 00:03:38,949 --> 00:03:37,200 available to support the fact 91 00:03:40,390 --> 00:03:38,959 that the planet has probably been and 92 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:40,400 still is being visited by 93 00:03:45,110 --> 00:03:43,200 extraterrestrials from other worlds 94 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:45,120 i just can't be egotistical enough to 95 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:46,640 think that we're the only living thing 96 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:48,799 in the universe 97 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:51,360 curiosity in ufos in fact is the second 98 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,869 we've got a roper poll here 99 00:04:05,350 --> 00:04:03,750 72 percent of americans believe that the 100 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:05,360 government is not telling the public 101 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:08,640 everything it knows about ufo activity 102 00:04:12,149 --> 00:04:10,799 68 of those surveyed think the 103 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:12,159 government knows more about 104 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:14,000 extraterrestrial life than it's letting 105 00:04:17,749 --> 00:04:15,599 on 106 00:04:19,749 --> 00:04:17,759 55 percent say that the government does 107 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:19,759 not share enough information with the 108 00:04:24,070 --> 00:04:21,440 public in general 109 00:04:25,350 --> 00:04:24,080 and 60 said when national security is 110 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:25,360 not at risk 111 00:04:30,150 --> 00:04:26,880 the united states government should not 112 00:04:31,670 --> 00:04:30,160 withhold information about ufo sightings 113 00:04:33,749 --> 00:04:31,680 and potential encounters with 114 00:04:35,510 --> 00:04:33,759 extraterrestrials 115 00:04:37,670 --> 00:04:35,520 now i put a note at the bottom of that 116 00:04:40,830 --> 00:04:37,680 these percentages are higher 117 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:40,840 than politicians get elected 118 00:04:45,749 --> 00:04:44,080 by there's no doubt in my mind that the 119 00:04:47,189 --> 00:04:45,759 government not everyone in the 120 00:04:49,909 --> 00:04:47,199 government but several within our 121 00:04:51,909 --> 00:04:49,919 government and certain military leaders 122 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:51,919 are definitely concealing information 123 00:04:56,310 --> 00:04:54,479 about the existence of ufos 124 00:04:59,030 --> 00:04:56,320 as well as other things which you and i 125 00:05:00,629 --> 00:04:59,040 as taxpayers are putting the bill for 126 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:00,639 while being lied to about their 127 00:05:06,469 --> 00:05:04,000 existence or the truth pertaining to it 128 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:06,479 today cover-up is a way of life whereas 129 00:05:10,550 --> 00:05:08,240 60 years ago 130 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:10,560 people in general felt very differently 131 00:05:14,790 --> 00:05:12,320 about their leaders 132 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:14,800 and the way our government operated 133 00:05:18,790 --> 00:05:17,520 back then the public respected them 134 00:05:20,469 --> 00:05:18,800 probably because they earned that 135 00:05:22,469 --> 00:05:20,479 respect 136 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:22,479 i seriously doubt there's anyone in this 137 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:24,800 audience they could name five people 138 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,590 time's up 139 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:35,430 another problem as i see it is the fact 140 00:05:40,150 --> 00:05:37,360 that many people just don't care if 141 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:40,160 extraterrestrials exist or not 142 00:05:44,629 --> 00:05:42,560 for our young people it's no big deal 143 00:05:46,550 --> 00:05:44,639 having been raised with star wars star 144 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:46,560 trek the x-files 145 00:05:51,270 --> 00:05:48,400 and others they pretty much accept the 146 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:51,280 fact that et's probably exist 147 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:52,880 it's also been proven that the more 148 00:05:55,830 --> 00:05:55,039 educated one is the more likely they 149 00:05:59,350 --> 00:05:55,840 will 150 00:06:01,189 --> 00:05:59,360 agree that there is life elsewhere 151 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:01,199 then there's the news media 152 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:03,039 that for the most part makes light of 153 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:06,720 ufo events if they finally do report it 154 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:08,560 some of us that research this subject 155 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:10,880 and some of you have an interest in it 156 00:06:14,710 --> 00:06:12,800 however feel this could be the biggest 157 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:14,720 story of the millennium 158 00:06:18,870 --> 00:06:17,280 and we continue to pursue it 159 00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:18,880 i for one want my children and 160 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:20,880 grandchildren to know what their future 161 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:22,400 might hold for them 162 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:23,919 and if it involves a higher 163 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:26,800 technological species than we are 164 00:06:31,029 --> 00:06:29,199 which wouldn't take much by the way 165 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:31,039 i think they should know that and our 166 00:06:34,950 --> 00:06:33,120 government should quit lying to us about 167 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:34,960 some of the things they do or do not 168 00:06:39,590 --> 00:06:36,880 tell us 169 00:06:41,270 --> 00:06:39,600 most of us have been raised in a box 170 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:41,280 throughout our lives we've been told and 171 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:43,680 taught things by others such as our 172 00:06:47,749 --> 00:06:45,600 parents or teachers 173 00:06:49,990 --> 00:06:47,759 or priests and pastors 174 00:06:51,749 --> 00:06:50,000 for many that information is enough and 175 00:06:53,670 --> 00:06:51,759 nothing is questioned 176 00:06:56,469 --> 00:06:53,680 for some of us we stray outside of the 177 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:56,479 box and request more information as is 178 00:07:00,870 --> 00:06:59,039 the case in the study ufology and the 179 00:07:02,629 --> 00:07:00,880 fact that i believe there's a tremendous 180 00:07:05,110 --> 00:07:02,639 amount of information 181 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:05,120 that we're not told or worse not told 182 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:06,800 the truth 183 00:07:11,830 --> 00:07:08,800 who has given a few the authority to 184 00:07:14,230 --> 00:07:11,840 withhold this information from us 185 00:07:16,629 --> 00:07:14,240 people often ask me if there in fact are 186 00:07:18,950 --> 00:07:16,639 aliens visiting our planet why don't 187 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:18,960 they communicate with us and my simple 188 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:22,000 answer is why would they want to 189 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:23,759 i don't go in the backyard and talk to 190 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:25,360 insects 191 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:26,800 if they can get here from wherever 192 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:28,560 they're from they understandably have 193 00:07:33,749 --> 00:07:31,440 intelligence knowledge and technology 194 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:33,759 far superior to ours 195 00:07:39,430 --> 00:07:37,440 since for some example we can't go there 196 00:07:41,350 --> 00:07:39,440 what do we have to offer a species so 197 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:41,360 far advanced of us 198 00:07:45,189 --> 00:07:43,360 the human being is the only species on 199 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:45,199 the planet that can not live with each 200 00:07:50,870 --> 00:07:46,000 other 201 00:07:52,790 --> 00:07:50,880 things as nationalities and borders 202 00:07:54,950 --> 00:07:52,800 the color of their skin religious 203 00:07:56,790 --> 00:07:54,960 beliefs etc 204 00:07:59,350 --> 00:07:56,800 we're destroying the planet as fast as 205 00:08:00,550 --> 00:07:59,360 we can the rain forest and the ozone 206 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:00,560 layer 207 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:02,080 so why would they want to communicate 208 00:08:05,510 --> 00:08:03,199 with us 209 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:05,520 what can we offer to them 210 00:08:13,430 --> 00:08:07,919 very little as i see it and i hope we 211 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:15,430 because people are more educated today 212 00:08:20,710 --> 00:08:18,400 than they were in 1947 i do not buy into 213 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:20,720 the possibility that the government is 214 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:23,840 afraid of panic or fear of the public 215 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:25,440 although i do believe there would be 216 00:08:29,270 --> 00:08:27,840 some concern in the financial world the 217 00:08:32,709 --> 00:08:29,280 religions of the world and the 218 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:32,719 leadership of several nations 219 00:08:37,269 --> 00:08:34,560 since the roswell incident research 220 00:08:39,110 --> 00:08:37,279 started in late 1970s hundreds of 221 00:08:42,149 --> 00:08:39,120 thousands of first-hand witnesses have 222 00:08:44,550 --> 00:08:42,159 been interviewed by various researchers 223 00:08:47,030 --> 00:08:44,560 i personally have talked to between 100 224 00:08:48,470 --> 00:08:47,040 and 150 first second and third hand 225 00:08:50,310 --> 00:08:48,480 witnesses 226 00:08:52,230 --> 00:08:50,320 in most cases the overwhelming 227 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:52,240 information obtained 228 00:08:57,350 --> 00:08:54,560 leans towards an extraterrestrial craft 229 00:08:59,269 --> 00:08:57,360 of unknown origin with bodies 230 00:09:02,150 --> 00:08:59,279 crashed on the new mexico desert in 231 00:09:04,070 --> 00:09:02,160 roswell in 1947. 232 00:09:05,110 --> 00:09:04,080 very few believe it was anything of our 233 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:05,120 government 234 00:09:10,710 --> 00:09:08,560 or the russians germans or japanese so 235 00:09:12,389 --> 00:09:10,720 who's was it 236 00:09:13,269 --> 00:09:12,399 hopefully in our lifetime we'll know the 237 00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:13,279 truth 238 00:09:17,750 --> 00:09:15,839 but as i get older that possibility 239 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:17,760 seems less likely 240 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:18,720 but it will 241 00:09:22,870 --> 00:09:20,880 certainly not discourage us 242 00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:22,880 from continuing to do the search for the 243 00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:24,800 truth because it's too important to know 244 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:26,640 the truth 245 00:09:30,710 --> 00:09:28,880 we continue to lose firsthand witnesses 246 00:09:32,470 --> 00:09:30,720 as time takes its toll on some of the 247 00:09:35,190 --> 00:09:32,480 people involved 248 00:09:36,790 --> 00:09:35,200 many of those who were involved in 1947 249 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:36,800 or now in their 80s if they're still 250 00:09:39,910 --> 00:09:38,160 alive 251 00:09:41,829 --> 00:09:39,920 others that were involved have decided 252 00:09:43,110 --> 00:09:41,839 to embellish or exaggerate their 253 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:43,120 involvement 254 00:09:48,150 --> 00:09:46,160 that creates problems for us researchers 255 00:09:49,750 --> 00:09:48,160 still others refuse to talk about it 256 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:49,760 after all these years 257 00:09:52,949 --> 00:09:51,120 due to their commitment to the 258 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:52,959 government or the military by being 259 00:09:57,269 --> 00:09:55,680 sworn to secrecy many years ago 260 00:09:59,190 --> 00:09:57,279 and still have that respect for the 261 00:10:01,030 --> 00:09:59,200 original leaders and government after 262 00:10:03,190 --> 00:10:01,040 all these years 263 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:03,200 as a research researcher that makes my 264 00:10:06,550 --> 00:10:04,560 job difficult 265 00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:06,560 but i respect them and wish that in some 266 00:10:11,590 --> 00:10:09,200 cases we had that respect for our 267 00:10:13,590 --> 00:10:11,600 leaders today 268 00:10:15,710 --> 00:10:13,600 the photographs taken to general ramy's 269 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:15,720 office in fort worth texas in july of 270 00:10:20,949 --> 00:10:18,800 1947 by james bond johnson 271 00:10:24,710 --> 00:10:20,959 continues to be one of the smoking guns 272 00:10:27,829 --> 00:10:24,720 in resolving the roshal incident 273 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:27,839 johnson passed away in 2006 a few years 274 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:30,640 after i had interviewed him 275 00:10:35,509 --> 00:10:32,320 in three different interviews done by 276 00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:35,519 david rudiak kevin randall and myself 277 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:37,360 johnson has started to embellish his 278 00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:40,240 involvement and changed his story 279 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:42,320 the interviews are posted on my website 280 00:10:51,190 --> 00:10:49,269 several groups have attempted to analyze 281 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:51,200 one of the photographs taken by johnson 282 00:10:54,069 --> 00:10:52,959 where general raymie is holding a piece 283 00:10:57,110 --> 00:10:54,079 of paper 284 00:10:59,269 --> 00:10:57,120 with the type words facing the camera 285 00:11:01,509 --> 00:10:59,279 david rudiak as well as several others 286 00:11:03,509 --> 00:11:01,519 are doing some excellent work and trying 287 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:03,519 to decipher what is written on the paper 288 00:11:07,670 --> 00:11:06,240 general remy is holding 289 00:11:11,190 --> 00:11:07,680 now there's a couple things in this 290 00:11:14,870 --> 00:11:12,870 that's the memo i'm talking about the 291 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:14,880 type on that piece of paper is facing 292 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:16,000 the camera 293 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:18,000 general remy had no idea that years 294 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:19,920 later with computers would be able to 295 00:11:29,829 --> 00:11:26,630 that's colonel de bosey's assistant 296 00:11:32,790 --> 00:11:29,839 the thing i want you to notice here 297 00:11:34,949 --> 00:11:32,800 this was set up when major marcel was 298 00:11:37,670 --> 00:11:34,959 taken to fort worth to talk to general 299 00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:37,680 raymie and show him some of the debris 300 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:39,839 when he got there they put the package 301 00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:42,720 that jesse marcel had 302 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:44,800 behind where they're sitting 303 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:48,240 and on the floor was a weather balloon 304 00:11:51,910 --> 00:11:50,560 now if anything had been wrapped in that 305 00:11:54,230 --> 00:11:51,920 package 306 00:11:56,069 --> 00:11:54,240 that paper would be wrinkled 307 00:11:57,990 --> 00:11:56,079 that's brand new paper off of a brand 308 00:11:59,910 --> 00:11:58,000 new roll of paper 309 00:12:01,829 --> 00:11:59,920 so we know that's a staged picture right 310 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:01,839 there 311 00:12:08,949 --> 00:12:06,880 back here behind me uh general ramy and 312 00:12:10,389 --> 00:12:08,959 currently those is a package 313 00:12:12,230 --> 00:12:10,399 that's probably what 314 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:12,240 major marcel brought with him when he 315 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:17,990 there's very little doubt in the minds 316 00:12:22,949 --> 00:12:20,000 of most researchers that part of that 317 00:12:24,790 --> 00:12:22,959 memo reads victims of the wreck 318 00:12:27,190 --> 00:12:24,800 weather balloons and mogul balloons 319 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:27,200 would not have had victims 320 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:28,959 there's some disagreement on what the 321 00:12:34,230 --> 00:12:31,600 entire message says but it appears there 322 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:34,240 is no disagreement on the words victims 323 00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:42,710 now there's only a few words in english 324 00:12:46,310 --> 00:12:43,920 language 325 00:12:47,670 --> 00:12:46,320 that have the letters b 326 00:12:50,310 --> 00:12:47,680 two eyes 327 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:50,320 and an s in the same location as the 328 00:12:54,550 --> 00:12:52,320 word victims 329 00:12:55,990 --> 00:12:54,560 and we don't believe violins or virgins 330 00:12:59,670 --> 00:12:56,000 had anything to do with the christ 331 00:13:03,509 --> 00:13:01,509 other words and phrases that seem to 332 00:13:04,389 --> 00:13:03,519 appear on the message include the word 333 00:13:06,230 --> 00:13:04,399 disc 334 00:13:09,350 --> 00:13:06,240 and a reference to sending out a press 335 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:09,360 release about weather balloons 336 00:13:12,949 --> 00:13:11,040 the analysis of that photograph 337 00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:12,959 continues today as better equipment 338 00:13:16,069 --> 00:13:14,560 becomes available 339 00:13:18,389 --> 00:13:16,079 and the clarity of the original 340 00:13:20,069 --> 00:13:18,399 photograph can be enhanced in order to 341 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:20,079 read what is actually typed on that 342 00:13:24,550 --> 00:13:21,519 paper 343 00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:24,560 general amy covered the story up in 1947 344 00:13:27,389 --> 00:13:26,240 by stating it was simply a weather 345 00:13:30,150 --> 00:13:27,399 balloon 346 00:13:36,550 --> 00:13:30,160 misidentified by the elite 509th bomb 347 00:13:41,829 --> 00:13:39,910 47 years later in 1994 the air force 348 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:41,839 would admit in their report that raymie 349 00:13:45,190 --> 00:13:43,200 was wrong 350 00:13:46,949 --> 00:13:45,200 about it being a weather balloon it was 351 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:46,959 a mogul balloon 352 00:13:51,269 --> 00:13:49,440 some of us reachers can researchers that 353 00:13:52,389 --> 00:13:51,279 continue to investigate the rostral 354 00:13:54,230 --> 00:13:52,399 instrument 355 00:13:56,230 --> 00:13:54,240 are convinced that after four different 356 00:13:57,910 --> 00:13:56,240 excuses by the air force 357 00:14:00,150 --> 00:13:57,920 we still have not been told what 358 00:14:02,629 --> 00:14:00,160 actually happened near roswell and we 359 00:14:04,629 --> 00:14:02,639 continue to research it 360 00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:04,639 some of the freedom information requests 361 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:06,320 that i've submitted to the military 362 00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:08,959 personnel record center in saint louis 363 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:11,120 about personnel assigned to the russell 364 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:13,920 army airfield in 1947 365 00:14:19,189 --> 00:14:16,240 continue to be returned with a generic 366 00:14:21,110 --> 00:14:19,199 stamp stating those service records 367 00:14:23,269 --> 00:14:21,120 may have been destroyed in the fire at 368 00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:23,279 the center in july of nineteen seventy 369 00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:29,030 new mexico congressman stephen schiff 370 00:14:32,949 --> 00:14:30,800 received a similar response from the 371 00:14:34,949 --> 00:14:32,959 general accounting office when he did 372 00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:34,959 his investigation into the russell 373 00:14:39,509 --> 00:14:37,600 institute in 1995. 374 00:14:41,430 --> 00:14:39,519 schiff was told that the records for the 375 00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:41,440 arousal army airfield were also 376 00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:42,720 destroyed 377 00:14:46,790 --> 00:14:44,160 but they had no knowledge of who 378 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:46,800 destroyed them or why 379 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:49,120 those were incoming and outgoing records 380 00:14:52,790 --> 00:14:51,040 of the only atomic bomb group in the 381 00:14:54,790 --> 00:14:52,800 world at the time 382 00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:54,800 and you can believe the gao if you want 383 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:55,839 to 384 00:15:00,110 --> 00:14:57,440 personally i do not believe that the 385 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:00,120 records of the only atomic bomb group in 386 00:15:09,189 --> 00:15:07,189 the location of a number of crash sites 387 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:09,199 continues to frustrate us 388 00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:10,880 the corn ranch site just north of 389 00:15:15,829 --> 00:15:13,760 roswell and west of us285 390 00:15:19,829 --> 00:15:15,839 was made famous schmidt and randall 391 00:15:22,230 --> 00:15:19,839 spoke in the early 1900s 1990s 392 00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:22,240 some military witnesses have supported 393 00:15:26,710 --> 00:15:24,480 that site however it's my belief 394 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:26,720 that that site has any validity it's 395 00:15:31,750 --> 00:15:29,440 only as a diversionary site 396 00:15:33,030 --> 00:15:31,760 i obtained an affidavit from the magnite 397 00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:33,040 family 398 00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:35,040 several years ago in which the mcknight 399 00:15:38,829 --> 00:15:36,959 stated that their family owned that 400 00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:38,839 ranch and lived there in 401 00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:41,920 1947 and nothing related to the russell 402 00:15:46,069 --> 00:15:44,320 incident happened on their ranch 403 00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:46,079 and in the past the current owner has 404 00:15:53,030 --> 00:15:49,920 even had a lot of tours to the site 405 00:15:54,710 --> 00:15:53,040 prior to his death in 2001 frank kaufman 406 00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:54,720 who claimed to be part of the rossville 407 00:15:59,189 --> 00:15:57,199 recovery team in 47 408 00:16:01,430 --> 00:15:59,199 changed his support to the corn ranch 409 00:16:02,949 --> 00:16:01,440 site at a location several miles further 410 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:02,959 to the west 411 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:05,600 toward the corona debris site 412 00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:07,680 all the conference accounts now have 413 00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:10,079 been proven to be wrong and were hoaxed 414 00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:12,000 by him 415 00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:14,399 the jim ragsdale site west of roswell in 416 00:16:19,509 --> 00:16:16,399 the capitan mountain was brought forward 417 00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:19,519 by ragsdale in 1993 418 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:22,480 and made public in 1995. 419 00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:24,880 unfortunately he provided two affidavits 420 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:27,040 having different descriptions of where 421 00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:29,360 he was and what he witnessed 422 00:16:33,829 --> 00:16:32,399 since rastel passed away in 1995 we may 423 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:33,839 never know which if any of his 424 00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:36,880 affidavits were true personally i cannot 425 00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:38,720 without much more research but any 426 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:47,590 now the three sites i'm talking about 427 00:16:52,949 --> 00:16:50,470 down here is roswell in the corner 428 00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:52,959 corn ranch site is about 22 miles north 429 00:16:58,710 --> 00:16:57,040 on 285 about six miles to the west 430 00:17:00,790 --> 00:16:58,720 the ragsdale site is out here in the 431 00:17:02,949 --> 00:17:00,800 capitan mountain 432 00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:02,959 corona is probably the only site that i 433 00:17:07,909 --> 00:17:04,799 put any confidence in that's where the 434 00:17:09,909 --> 00:17:07,919 rancher mike brassell found the debris 435 00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:09,919 that's the town of corona it's about 12 436 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,949 the corona debris field 437 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:22,470 it's on balance 438 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:24,720 the corona debris field site located on 439 00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:28,160 what was the foster ranch in 1947 440 00:17:33,190 --> 00:17:30,400 is to me based on years of research by 441 00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:33,200 many individuals the official crash site 442 00:17:37,029 --> 00:17:35,280 for the rossul incident 443 00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:37,039 that was the location that's described 444 00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:39,200 by ranch foreman mack brazel 445 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:41,360 where he found debris scattered over an 446 00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:43,840 area several hundred yards wide 447 00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:46,559 by three quarters of a mile long 448 00:17:51,110 --> 00:17:48,640 that's also the site where major jesse 449 00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:51,120 marcel and captain cabot 450 00:17:54,630 --> 00:17:52,720 went to investigate the scene and 451 00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:54,640 collected some of the debris prior to 452 00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:57,200 the military cleaning it up 453 00:18:01,510 --> 00:17:59,120 there's a very strong possibility that 454 00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:01,520 there's another site existed a short 455 00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:03,440 distance from the debris field where the 456 00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:05,520 actual bodies were found 457 00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:07,440 that will continue to be investigated 458 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:10,000 and hopefully verified 459 00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:12,080 stanton friedman the original civilian 460 00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:14,240 ross oil investigator has for years 461 00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:16,240 mentioned the possibility 462 00:18:21,190 --> 00:18:19,280 of two crafts having a mid-air collision 463 00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:21,200 with one craft going down on the plains 464 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:24,080 of saint augustine west of socorro 465 00:18:28,870 --> 00:18:25,760 and the other crashing at the corona 466 00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:28,880 debris field 467 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:31,039 the last excuse given by the air force 468 00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:32,880 was case closed 469 00:18:35,669 --> 00:18:34,559 where they said the bodies recovered in 470 00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:35,679 the russell incident were 471 00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:38,640 anthropomorphic crash test dummies 472 00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:40,320 the air force however didn't mention 473 00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:42,320 that the crash test dummies weren't used 474 00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:44,640 until 1953 475 00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:47,440 six years after the russell incident 476 00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:49,039 but that's a minor point when you're 477 00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:51,440 lying for 60 years 478 00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:53,280 perhaps now you can understand the 479 00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:55,440 difficult task we researchers have with 480 00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:58,160 several crash sites to investigate 481 00:19:01,909 --> 00:18:59,760 the witnesses that embellish their 482 00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:01,919 experience or involvement 483 00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:05,520 or due to having age and memory problems 484 00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:07,679 and those that flat refuse to talk about 485 00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:09,440 it at all 486 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:11,440 we continue to search for new witnesses 487 00:19:14,789 --> 00:19:13,440 and confirm the information already 488 00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:14,799 obtained 489 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:16,480 will not give up 490 00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:18,240 because something happened near roswell 491 00:19:22,549 --> 00:19:20,400 in july 1947 492 00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:22,559 and 60 some years later our government 493 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:24,640 and military have not satisfactory 494 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:25,840 explained it 495 00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:33,029 now for a place that hasn't officially 496 00:19:36,789 --> 00:19:35,600 existed for many years according to the 497 00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:36,799 government 498 00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:39,440 area 51 has been referred to by a lot of 499 00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:41,600 names over the years 500 00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:44,000 some of those names include groom lake 501 00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:45,200 dreamland 502 00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:46,880 paradise ranch 503 00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:50,160 west watertown strip the box the pig 504 00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:52,640 farm and several others 505 00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:55,039 many people do not know how or when area 506 00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:57,600 51 came into existence in the nevada 507 00:20:02,630 --> 00:19:58,640 desert 508 00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:02,640 some 85 miles northwest las vegas nevada 509 00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:04,559 most people believe it was a military 510 00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:05,440 base 511 00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:07,280 when in fact it was originally opened by 512 00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:11,280 the cia the central intelligence agency 513 00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:12,880 president truman through the national 514 00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,760 security act of 1947 515 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:17,520 set up both the national security 516 00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:19,360 council and the central intelligence 517 00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:20,799 agency 518 00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:22,880 back then the director of the cia 519 00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:25,679 answered directly to the president 520 00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:29,679 in 1949 the caia was act was passed 521 00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:32,559 which stipulated that not only would cia 522 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,880 activities be classified 523 00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,480 but that its budget would also be 524 00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:38,000 classified 525 00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:39,840 the united states government could also 526 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:42,640 deny any responsibility for the cia 527 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:49,270 after world war ii the united states was 528 00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:51,360 very concerned about whether the soviet 529 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,320 union had developed an atomic bomb 530 00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:56,640 one way to find out would be to overfly 531 00:21:01,830 --> 00:20:58,720 the soviet union in a high altitude 532 00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:01,840 aircraft equipped with cameras 533 00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:04,080 lockheed's kelly johnson designed such 534 00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:06,480 an aircraft and went directly to the cia 535 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,919 with it 536 00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:09,520 normally such an aircraft would have 537 00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:11,440 been test flown at edwards air force 538 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:13,280 base in california 539 00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:15,280 but with the security required for such 540 00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:17,679 a top secret project is this 541 00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:19,679 it was decided to look for a new secure 542 00:21:24,310 --> 00:21:22,400 site somewhere in the southwest 543 00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:24,320 a dozen sites were looked at before 544 00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:26,640 deciding on groom lake nevada 545 00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:34,230 this area was previously controlled by 546 00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:36,480 the atomic energy commission for testing 547 00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,159 atomic weapons 548 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:40,799 was expanded to include groom lake and 549 00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:45,520 by july 1955 the cia had its sacred base 550 00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:48,559 a fake construction firm clj 551 00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:50,880 was formed to oversee the construction 552 00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:52,400 of the base mostly done by 553 00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:53,919 subcontractors 554 00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:56,799 to build hangers a mile long runway 555 00:22:02,070 --> 00:21:59,760 ramps control tower mess hall and other 556 00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:02,080 required structures 557 00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:03,440 the airplane that 558 00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:06,080 was designed by kelly johnson was known 559 00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:09,200 as the aquatone by the cia 560 00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:12,320 and his angel by lockheed 561 00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:14,480 the first prototype was called article 562 00:22:19,789 --> 00:22:17,039 341 and flown to groom lake in a 563 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:19,799 transport plane on july 24 564 00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:21,600 1955. 565 00:22:24,830 --> 00:22:23,919 eventually that aircraft became known as 566 00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:24,840 the 567 00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:29,919 inception of area 51 it was not 568 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,080 originally an air force base 569 00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:34,320 but rather that lockheed and the cia 570 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:37,120 were in charge not the military 571 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:38,960 pilots for the youtube are recruited 572 00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:41,760 from the f-84 pilots from top secret 573 00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:43,600 clearances from the strategic air 574 00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:44,960 command 575 00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:47,360 if they became u-2 pilots they resigned 576 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,840 from the air force and became cia 577 00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,520 employees 578 00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:53,520 the first mission over the soviet union 579 00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:56,960 took place on july 4th 1956 580 00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:58,559 and the missions were quite effective 581 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:00,640 due to the higher speed and high 582 00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:02,799 altitude capabilities 583 00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:05,679 until may 1st 1960 when francis gary 584 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:07,520 powers were shot down 585 00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:09,280 by a soviet missile 586 00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:13,440 captured and forced to admit to spying 587 00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:15,600 that same day the first american spy 588 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,159 satellites film was retrieved which 589 00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:20,320 showed more information about the soviet 590 00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,559 union than all the previous u2 flights 591 00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,640 combined 592 00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,480 the satellites however did not put an 593 00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:28,559 end to our spy planes being developed 594 00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:34,950 with project ox court which eventually 595 00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:37,280 became the sr-71 596 00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:39,840 a longer runway was needed at area 51 597 00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:41,919 and in fact a small town was built for 598 00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:44,799 the support personnel assigned there 599 00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:47,200 today the base has four runways one of 600 00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:50,799 which is 30 000 feet long that's almost 601 00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:53,760 six miles of runway 602 00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,600 when kelly johnson of the skunk works 603 00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:57,840 was asked to build the oxcart aircraft 604 00:24:02,549 --> 00:23:59,440 by the cia 605 00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,559 which later was named the sr-71 606 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,799 they required an aircraft that could fly 607 00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:06,720 at three and a half times the speed of 608 00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:09,600 sound that's a half mile per second 609 00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:12,400 with a range of 4100 miles 610 00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:17,120 at an altitude of 84 to 97 000 feet 611 00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:20,559 flying at a speed of 2200 miles per hour 612 00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:23,760 that airplane required 186 miles to make 613 00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:25,600 a u-turn 614 00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:29,080 the sr-71 was originally designed as the 615 00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,640 rs-71 blackbird but president johnson in 616 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:34,159 a public speech 617 00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:36,080 accidentally inverted the letters and 618 00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,720 since the president israeli corrected 619 00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:40,240 the air force changed his letter 620 00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,440 designation to sr-71 621 00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:45,520 the original letters rs stood for 622 00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:47,600 reconnaissance strike 623 00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:49,600 the pentagon originally termed the name 624 00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:50,880 blackbird 625 00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:52,880 black because he had developed it in the 626 00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:54,720 dark by the c.i.a 627 00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:01,510 the stealth f-117 fighter which by the 628 00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:03,120 way was taken out of service and 629 00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,679 replaced with the f-22 raptor 630 00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:07,760 south of roswell at holloman air force 631 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:08,720 base 632 00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:10,720 was first on the design drawing boards 633 00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:13,600 in 1973 and referred to as project 634 00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:15,120 harvey 635 00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:16,880 because of the flat surfaces on the 636 00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:19,120 plane to reflect radar away from their 637 00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,080 source 638 00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:22,080 such as the appearance of facets on a 639 00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:23,279 diamond 640 00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:25,360 lockheed named the project the hopeless 641 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,720 diamond 642 00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:29,039 it was renamed have blue when the 643 00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:32,559 prototypes began arriving at area 51 644 00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:35,600 in 1977 for testing 645 00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:37,279 the american public and the rest of the 646 00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:38,960 world found out about the stealth 647 00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:42,400 fighter in 1991 during the gulf war 648 00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:46,799 18 years after the secret project began 649 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:48,640 other aircraft that have been test flown 650 00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:51,760 at area 51 include the a-10 the a-12 the 651 00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,840 b-1 the b-2 652 00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,440 and several others 653 00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:57,360 captured a foreign airplane are also 654 00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,520 flown there such as the russian mig-21 655 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:03,440 we believe under development and being 656 00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:06,080 test flown there today are such names 657 00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:09,279 as the tr-3a the black mana 658 00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:12,960 the pump pumpkin seed and the aurora 659 00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:15,039 within the flash past few years 660 00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:16,880 contrails have been seen that leave a 661 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:17,840 trail 662 00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:20,400 that looked like doughnuts on a rope 663 00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:22,240 which is believed to be a pulsating 664 00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:24,880 propulsion system possibly from the 665 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:26,640 royal 666 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:28,720 the top drawing is the artist's 667 00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:31,760 conception of what the aurora looks like 668 00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:33,679 the bottom is an actual photograph i 669 00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:36,720 took in roswell several years ago 670 00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:39,279 of a contrail that looks like donuts on 671 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:40,320 a rope 672 00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:42,240 meaning it has a circle every so often 673 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:43,840 down that contrail 674 00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,760 could be a pulsating propulsion system 675 00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:49,600 several researchers have indicated that 676 00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:51,919 debris from the crash saucer at roswell 677 00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,679 originally taken to right field in 678 00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:56,320 dayton ohio in 1947 679 00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:59,360 may today be at every 51. 680 00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:02,400 other reports indicate that every 51 681 00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,320 has as many as 22 levels below ground 682 00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:08,080 the secret base was brought to the 683 00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:10,799 forefront involving ufos when bob lazar 684 00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:12,480 claimed to have been there 685 00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,200 to back engineer a ufo propulsion system 686 00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:17,360 in another area of the base 687 00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:20,640 known as s4 at patpoo's lake 688 00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:22,559 no real evidence of this has come to 689 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,120 light and lazar has been seriously 690 00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:27,440 questioned about his credibility his 691 00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:30,640 education and his knowledge 692 00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:32,799 like lieutenant colonel carso co-author 693 00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:34,799 of the day after roswell 694 00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:37,360 who i met on three separate occasions 695 00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:39,760 and several other also witnesses 696 00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,840 lazar is one of those type individuals 697 00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:43,679 that i'd like to believe 698 00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:45,679 but cannot without a significant more 699 00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:48,880 amount of verification of his claims 700 00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:50,960 credibility and verification and 701 00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:52,159 validity 702 00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,559 remain the cornerstone of ufo research 703 00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:58,320 rumors have been rampant for some time 704 00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:01,200 that the base is or has moved 705 00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:03,440 that's not true as i was at the base in 706 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:06,159 2006 when i did two lectures in the town 707 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:06,799 of 708 00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:07,840 rachel 709 00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,200 next to the base 710 00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,120 and one of my sources of information 711 00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:13,360 recently informed me that a new gigantic 712 00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:15,919 water storage tank has recently been 713 00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,799 constructed at area 51. 714 00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:20,720 employees are moved around from base to 715 00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:23,279 base when their projects are completed 716 00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:25,200 so the number of employees at the base 717 00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:27,120 varies from time to time depending on 718 00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:29,840 what projects are being done there 719 00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:31,760 daytime stealth is one of the projects 720 00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:33,679 we believe is currently being tested at 721 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,799 the base 722 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:36,559 which if successful would make the 723 00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,520 surface of an aircraft appear invisible 724 00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:41,200 by taking on the appearance of the 725 00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:43,120 background sky 726 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:45,440 also being tested there today 727 00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,870 each year the president of the united 728 00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,640 states has issued a presidential 729 00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:57,120 determination pertaining to a classified 730 00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:59,760 information concerning the air force 731 00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:01,600 operating location near groomed lake 732 00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:03,039 nevada 733 00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,279 basically that determination states that 734 00:29:08,549 --> 00:29:07,279 information concerning activities at 735 00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:08,559 groomed lake 736 00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:10,320 have been properly determined to be 737 00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:12,399 classified and disclosure would be 738 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:15,120 harmful to national security 739 00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:17,200 continued protection of this information 740 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,279 is therefore in the paramount interest 741 00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:22,080 of the united states 742 00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,440 president clinton started this 743 00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:25,360 presidential determination when two 744 00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,679 women tried to sue the government 745 00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:29,520 because their husbands who were employed 746 00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,000 at area 51 died due rate due to 747 00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,080 radiation exposure 748 00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:36,240 from toxic waste being burned above the 749 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,679 ground 750 00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,520 the case was thrown out due to the fact 751 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,679 that the base where they work doesn't 752 00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,360 exist 753 00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:45,200 president bush continued to the yearly 754 00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:47,200 determination but have not been able to 755 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,240 find any signed by president obama 756 00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:52,080 indicating they're either no longer 757 00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:55,360 issued or no longer made public 758 00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:57,039 as a side note the environmental 759 00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,799 protection agency 760 00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:00,720 doesn't permit the burning of toxic 761 00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:03,279 waste above ground at any other location 762 00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:06,080 in the united states 763 00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:08,000 as a taxpayer who has helped pay for the 764 00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:09,600 base over the years 765 00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,360 i certainly would be disturbed if the 766 00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:13,600 base were to shut down or moved 767 00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,360 particularly after we've been lied to 768 00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:18,320 about his existence for many years 769 00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:20,960 i do have mixed emotions about area 51 770 00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:23,360 however as i look at the base as a 771 00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:26,000 catch-22 situation 772 00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:28,080 as a world leader our country needs a 773 00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:30,320 place to test newly developed aircraft 774 00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:32,240 and other technology 775 00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:33,760 because we certainly don't want our 776 00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:35,360 adversaries knowing what we're 777 00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:36,640 developing 778 00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:39,039 but if an alien craft or beings are kept 779 00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,679 there i think we deserve to know it 780 00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:43,600 i also think the base should be required 781 00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:45,360 to comply with all environmental 782 00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:48,720 policies imposed on other industries and 783 00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:51,039 explain why employees are dying due to 784 00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:53,440 radiation exposure at the base 785 00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:57,520 as has been reported in recent years 786 00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,279 because of our government's past record 787 00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:01,200 i highly suspicious that they're hiding 788 00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,360 something other than the development of 789 00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:05,120 new aircraft 790 00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:07,840 as recently as 1995 the department of 791 00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:11,360 the interior withdrew 4 000 acres 792 00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:14,159 of blm land from public access creating 793 00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,320 an even larger buffer loan 794 00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:18,240 to prevent the public from seeing any 795 00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:19,919 activities at groom lake from the 796 00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:22,000 adjacent mountains 797 00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:24,320 this means the area of land incorporated 798 00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:26,240 into area 51 799 00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,640 is now the size of connecticut 800 00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:30,559 and the restricted airspace above the 801 00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:33,120 base and closes several thousand square 802 00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:35,200 miles 803 00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:37,039 security at the base continues to be 804 00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:38,399 some of the most strengthened of 805 00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:40,240 anywhere in the world 806 00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,320 in addition to the white grand cherokees 807 00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:44,159 we heard about for years 808 00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:46,159 the guards are now also using ford and 809 00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:48,559 chevy pickups as i found out when i was 810 00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:55,110 highly sophisticated sensing devices are 811 00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:58,159 in place as well using cameras motion 812 00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,960 detectors and sensors that can determine 813 00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:02,880 the difference between human 814 00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:05,840 and animal odour and perspiration 815 00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:08,799 f-16s and black blackhawk helicopter 816 00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:11,360 gunships fly around the perimeter of the 817 00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:14,399 base to keep the curious people out the 818 00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,720 signs posted at the two entrances still 819 00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,640 say the use of deadly force is 820 00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:19,919 authorized 821 00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:27,029 if you look at the very bottom corner 822 00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:30,559 that picture in red letters says the use 823 00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:33,279 of deadly force is authorized 824 00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:35,039 for people that don't understand english 825 00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:41,509 that's one of the listening devices up 826 00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:47,909 that's about the 13 mile road that gets 827 00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:50,480 off the extraterrestrial highway 828 00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:52,480 goes straight back by that mountain to 829 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:59,750 that's not one of the guards 830 00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:01,909 that's the back gate that was kind of 831 00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:07,190 i walked down that there is no fence 832 00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:10,000 around every 51 every so often they have 833 00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:10,640 a 834 00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:26,000 pole 835 00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:28,000 well every time i'd stop 836 00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:29,760 that camera would be on me 837 00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,600 we did that about three times and i 838 00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,840 finally turned around i waved at them 839 00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:35,279 let them know i know you're looking at 840 00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:37,039 me so don't worry about it 841 00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:40,399 but that's all they have to do out there 842 00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:41,840 so for those of you that thought our 843 00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:43,679 government can't keep secrets i've just 844 00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:44,880 presented 845 00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:47,039 with a few examples of some secrets that 846 00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,399 have been kept at least at area 51. 847 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,480 the base of the land area the size of 848 00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:54,320 the state of connecticut 849 00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:57,200 existed under the control of the cia 850 00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,840 for some 25 or 30 years before anything 851 00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:01,440 public was acknowledged about his 852 00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:03,039 existence 853 00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,799 today we're told that the base exists 854 00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,720 there but nothing else 855 00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,119 we found out about the stealth f-117 856 00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:11,919 during the gulf war in 1991. 857 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:14,399 when in fact it had been test flown 858 00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:17,760 that area 51 in 1977 under the name have 859 00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:18,720 blue 860 00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:22,639 and its development had begun in 1973. 861 00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:25,119 with other projects going on at area 51 862 00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:27,200 including radioactive projects and the 863 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,679 fact that as taxpayers 864 00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:31,760 we are helping to fund those projects i 865 00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,800 feel you and i have every right to know 866 00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:36,960 and to be suspicious and should continue 867 00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:39,440 to seek whatever information we can 868 00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:46,310 speaking of being suspicious about what 869 00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:48,240 our government does and says let me 870 00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:49,599 assure you 871 00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,679 that not all of my suspicion involves 872 00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:53,440 strange opportunity in the sky that we 873 00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:54,960 can't identify 874 00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:57,119 but also involves things deep within the 875 00:35:00,630 --> 00:34:58,560 earth 876 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,640 my engineering background is responsible 877 00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:02,880 for the portion of my research 878 00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:05,119 as i wondered for years whether rumors 879 00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:07,680 about underground facilities were really 880 00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:08,720 true 881 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:10,000 and if they were how were they 882 00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:11,520 facilities built 883 00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:14,480 who built them and for what purpose 884 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,640 apparently black project money is one of 885 00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:18,560 the largest expenditures our government 886 00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:19,440 has 887 00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,200 and it appears at least to me there's 888 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:23,680 very little accountability 889 00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:25,680 on those projects 890 00:35:28,829 --> 00:35:27,680 to obtain funding for a black project 891 00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:28,839 such as 892 00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:31,359 catchphrases as national security and 893 00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:33,760 research and development are used to 894 00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:35,839 obtain the funding 895 00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:37,760 with very few questions being asked 896 00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:39,040 since there won't be any answers 897 00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:41,200 forthcoming anyway 898 00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:42,640 underground facilities have been 899 00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,800 constructed for years not only by the 900 00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:47,040 united states but also by many other 901 00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:48,160 countries 902 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:49,839 and many of those projects involve 903 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,560 high-tech engineering to accomplish 904 00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:54,160 through different means of obtaining 905 00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:56,000 information we know that the russians 906 00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,240 the north koreans the chinese the 907 00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:00,320 vietnamese and many other countries have 908 00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,200 subterranean tunnel systems and bases 909 00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,280 located underground 910 00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:07,440 the experience and technology required 911 00:36:11,589 --> 00:36:09,520 is commonplace today 912 00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:11,599 and with the advent of new technology 913 00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:13,680 underground facilities will be even more 914 00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:21,030 a workforce is readily available for 915 00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:23,119 doing underground projects with years of 916 00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:25,040 experience in mining 917 00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:27,599 for such things as diamonds coal salt 918 00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:30,079 and many other common products 919 00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:31,760 equipment has been developed over the 920 00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:33,680 years to the point where very large 921 00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:36,320 boring machines can now work below 922 00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:37,520 ground 923 00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:39,040 under the earth's surface with no 924 00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,880 knowledge above ground that anything is 925 00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:42,640 taking place 926 00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:44,240 several companies such as the rain 927 00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,520 corporation dawn engineering bechtel and 928 00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:49,680 others have been heavily involved in 929 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,839 tunneling for years 930 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:53,680 so if we have technology to tunnel and 931 00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,880 bore through 932 00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:56,640 mountains and deep within the earth for 933 00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:59,680 mining constructing highways railroads 934 00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:01,760 drainage systems etc 935 00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:04,079 why not also for secretive projects we 936 00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:07,200 taxpayers know very little about 937 00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:08,720 i want to share some of the equipment 938 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,349 that's one of the flame jets 939 00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:18,790 some of these pictures i'm just showing 940 00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:20,640 you the relationship of the size of the 941 00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:22,320 equipment compared to the men that 942 00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:23,760 operate them 943 00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:30,069 and this one 944 00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:34,560 has a patent date of september 1972. 945 00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:36,640 so we know they got a lot more newer 946 00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:38,560 stuff since then these things are 947 00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:40,560 gigantic that one's used to make a 948 00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:42,880 vertical hole as i stated earlier it's 949 00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:45,200 almost a necessity today to do secretive 950 00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:46,720 work underground 951 00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:48,160 because of the large number of 952 00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:49,920 satellites circling the earth with the 953 00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:51,839 ability to take a photo that can read a 954 00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:55,359 newspaper from two hundred miles up 955 00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:56,960 it's basically the only way to keep 956 00:38:02,069 --> 00:37:59,280 secrets from the public public or the 957 00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,079 spying eyes of our adversaries 958 00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:04,240 for our national defense missile silos 959 00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:06,880 were placed 150 to 200 feet underground 960 00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:09,119 in the early 1960s 961 00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:11,599 they had fuel water generators living 962 00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:14,400 facilities and supplies for a number of 963 00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:17,200 personnel for at least 30 days 964 00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,119 the initial cost of constructing these 965 00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,359 facilities is in the 14 million dollar 966 00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:23,200 range for each one 967 00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:25,760 and many were only used a few years 968 00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,000 before being deactivated 969 00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:29,920 norad the north american aerospace 970 00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:31,599 defense command is located in the 971 00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:33,599 cheyenne mountain near colorado springs 972 00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:35,200 colorado 973 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,280 it became fully operational on april 974 00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:39,680 20th 1966 975 00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:42,079 replacing an above ground facility and 976 00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:43,839 air force base 977 00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:47,520 the initial cost was 142 million dollars 978 00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:49,599 today its budget exceeds that amount 979 00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,040 annually 980 00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:53,520 nora's job is to monitor anything in 981 00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:55,200 space which today 982 00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,680 includes well over 13 000 objects on 983 00:39:02,310 --> 00:38:59,359 orbit around the earth 984 00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:02,320 larger than the size of a baseball 985 00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:05,359 since space tracking began in 1957 space 986 00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:07,680 objects have been cataloged some of 987 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:10,079 which have since long 988 00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:11,760 re-entered the earth's atmosphere and 989 00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:13,520 burned up 990 00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:16,480 this underground facility 991 00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:18,960 has almost three miles of tunnels 992 00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:20,880 three foot thick glass doors and is 993 00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:23,440 located seventeen hundred feet beneath 994 00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:24,800 the mountain 995 00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:27,119 employees over thousand military and 996 00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:28,880 civilian personnel 997 00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:31,040 and is also self-sustaining with his own 998 00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,160 power border air and food for over 800 999 00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,880 people for a 30-day period 1000 00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,960 rumor has it that no right will again be 1001 00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:40,800 moved and i think has been 1002 00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:43,200 due to the security have been increased 1003 00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:53,510 that is a map that shows where some 1004 00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:55,440 believe that there are underground 1005 00:40:02,790 --> 00:39:57,280 facilities in the primarily in the 1006 00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:04,069 there's two books that i highly 1007 00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:05,920 recommend on the subject of underground 1008 00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:13,829 the united states navy has published 1009 00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:15,520 articles and reports pertaining the 1010 00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:17,200 feasibility of having underwater 1011 00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:18,960 facilities with no connection to the 1012 00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:20,079 mainland 1013 00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:23,200 for basic new needs such as air water 1014 00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,960 and being self-sufficient for large 1015 00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:26,720 numbers of personnel 1016 00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:33,030 has our technology driven us underground 1017 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:35,520 not really because i hope the indians of 1018 00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,640 arizona 1019 00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:38,880 talk about their ancestors originating 1020 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:41,040 from within the earth and arriving 1021 00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:42,640 through a tunnel at the base of san 1022 00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:45,359 francisco peak near flagstaff 1023 00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,200 we're finding vast tunnel systems in 1024 00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:49,520 egypt on the giza plateau 1025 00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:51,359 that may have been used as canals with 1026 00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:53,200 water to transport items from one 1027 00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,119 location to another 1028 00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:57,359 so concealing things underground is not 1029 00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:02,470 at the beginning of the presentation i 1030 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,160 mentioned that i had been asked to join 1031 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:06,240 the advisory board of the great pyramids 1032 00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:11,040 of giza research association in 2001. 1033 00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:13,040 i suppose many of you are wondering how 1034 00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:14,640 ufologists would fit in with the 1035 00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,440 research of the pyramids of egypt 1036 00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,520 dr john desalvo is the director of the 1037 00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:20,960 association 1038 00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:22,640 and he has organized some of the most 1039 00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:25,040 prominent researchers in the world 1040 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:27,040 within the past few years to research 1041 00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:28,800 the history of the pyramids and study 1042 00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:30,720 the effects the pyramids supposedly 1043 00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:32,319 possess 1044 00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:34,240 currently the advisory board consists of 1045 00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:35,839 30 individuals 1046 00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:39,839 from canada ukraine italy india france 1047 00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,240 malta and the united states 1048 00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:44,240 comprised of scientists physicists 1049 00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:45,760 egyptologists 1050 00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:48,720 engineers and now ufologists 1051 00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:55,589 dr salvo recently published his second 1052 00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:57,359 book on pyramid research which i 1053 00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:59,280 consider one of the most detailed and 1054 00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:01,119 informative books ever written on the 1055 00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,640 subject 1056 00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:04,400 being involved with this research has 1057 00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,240 truly been fascinating 1058 00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:08,079 in this presentation i'll share some of 1059 00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:09,599 that 1060 00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:11,520 one of our board members stephen mueller 1061 00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:13,599 has done extensive research 1062 00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:17,040 on a civilization known as commissions 1063 00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:18,880 that existed well over ten thousand 1064 00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:21,200 years ago that he described in his book 1065 00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:23,359 the land of osiris 1066 00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,440 he and others believe it was a black 1067 00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:27,520 advanced prehistoric civilization in 1068 00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,960 north africa 1069 00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:31,520 which today is egypt 1070 00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:33,280 could the commission civilization have 1071 00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:34,880 been involved in building the three 1072 00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:36,880 pyramids of giza 1073 00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:39,599 mueller thinks the answer could be yes 1074 00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,599 and his research supports that of others 1075 00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:43,920 that say the great pyramids were never 1076 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:46,000 intended to be a tomb for an egyptian 1077 00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:46,960 king 1078 00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:49,520 but a machine to transform generate and 1079 00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,109 the theories on the commission's 1080 00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:57,520 civilization by some researchers goes as 1081 00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,119 far as stating that they may have had 1082 00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:01,280 contact with star people 1083 00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:03,200 because it appears they had technology 1084 00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:05,920 and tools that were superior to anything 1085 00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:08,240 the egyptians had or any other old 1086 00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:10,000 civilization 1087 00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:11,839 the use of water and or sound may 1088 00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:13,760 someday prove to have been a key factor 1089 00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:15,920 in the building of the pyramids as a 1090 00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:17,920 means of overcoming gravity to handle 1091 00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:19,760 the massive stones and to build the 1092 00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:22,640 pyramids with the precise accuracy used 1093 00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:24,839 to cut 1094 00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:27,839 them no mummy or remains of any kind 1095 00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:29,200 have ever been found in the great 1096 00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:30,480 pyramid 1097 00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:32,960 when first entered by the arabs in 820 1098 00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:33,920 a.d 1099 00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:35,760 the only thing discovered was an empty 1100 00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:37,760 granted box and a king's chamber called 1101 00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:39,119 a coffer 1102 00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:41,359 that empty lidless box was uninscribed 1103 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,280 and undecorated and most certainly the 1104 00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:45,280 chamber would have been covered with 1105 00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,200 hieroglyphics and paintings and 1106 00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,280 possessions had a pharaoh been placed in 1107 00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:51,760 it as was the custom of the egyptians 1108 00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:53,680 when preparing their pharaohs 1109 00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:56,800 for burial to enter the afterlife 1110 00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:58,880 it's the only pyramid both ascending and 1111 00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:01,040 descending passages 1112 00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:02,960 other pyramids only have descending 1113 00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:04,400 passages 1114 00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:07,359 dead ferris don't need air so why air 1115 00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:14,390 originally the great pyramid was covered 1116 00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:16,000 with highly polished 1117 00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,160 limestone casing stones 1118 00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:20,240 which acted like gigantic mirrors which 1119 00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:21,359 would have been 1120 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:23,280 reflected to sunlight 1121 00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:24,880 and so powerful that it would have been 1122 00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,880 visible from the moon 1123 00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:28,800 the arabs removed most of the casing 1124 00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:30,800 stones from the pyramids in the 14th 1125 00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:33,040 century to build their own masks and 1126 00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,069 uh the casting stones the only one you 1127 00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:40,319 can see them on any day today is that 1128 00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:42,000 middle uh middle one 1129 00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:43,680 at the very top some of those casing 1130 00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:45,440 stones are still there 1131 00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:47,359 and if you notice the flat top on the 1132 00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:49,280 big one here in the front 1133 00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:51,040 and also the alignment 1134 00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:55,119 is exactly like the constellation orion 1135 00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:57,119 it's been assumed by many that the great 1136 00:45:02,829 --> 00:44:59,599 pyramid was built for khufu the pharah 1137 00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:02,839 of the fourth dynasty about 2600 1138 00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,160 bc but records indicate that khufu was 1139 00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:08,400 not buried in the great pyramid 1140 00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:11,200 the only statue ever found of khufu is 1141 00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:12,880 in the cairo museum 1142 00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,960 is only three inches tall 1143 00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:16,800 being found many miles away from the 1144 00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,599 pyramid it is therefore our belief that 1145 00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:21,359 the three pyramids of giza and the 1146 00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:23,040 sphinx are much older than we've been 1147 00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:25,839 told by modern day egyptologists 1148 00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:28,480 many have researched the pyramids during 1149 00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:30,640 that past four or five hundred years 1150 00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:34,720 including napoleon bonaparte in 1798 1151 00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,640 whose expedition was accompanied not 1152 00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:38,960 only by his military but also by his 1153 00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:40,240 engineers 1154 00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:42,640 surveyors astronomers artists and 1155 00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,400 archaeologists 1156 00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:46,400 their work was published in many volumes 1157 00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:49,200 from 1809 to 1822 1158 00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:51,119 by order of napoleon 1159 00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:53,680 napoleon himself was supposedly shaken 1160 00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:55,680 after spending time alone in the king's 1161 00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:56,640 chamber 1162 00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:59,599 and refused to ever talk about it again 1163 00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:01,599 some say he was given some vision of his 1164 00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:03,280 destiny while alone in the king's 1165 00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,990 there you see the flat top on the great 1166 00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:09,599 pyramid 1167 00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,520 another one of our advisory boards 1168 00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:13,599 members joe parr has spent an entire 1169 00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:15,599 night on top of the great pyramid on two 1170 00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:17,200 separate locations 1171 00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:20,240 in 1997 and 1998 1172 00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,160 conducting electrical magnetic and 1173 00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:24,079 radioactive measurements 1174 00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:25,760 he's been able to measure an energy 1175 00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:28,000 field or a bubble that appears to form 1176 00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:29,839 around the pyramid 1177 00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:32,160 he believes that energy field appears to 1178 00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,359 vary with the 11 year sunspot cycle 1179 00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:37,520 the top of the pyramid has a 30 by 30 1180 00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,200 foot flat area 1181 00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:40,960 and as a point of interest it appears 1182 00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:42,400 that the great pyramid was never 1183 00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:43,520 finished 1184 00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:45,440 since the top is flat and contains no 1185 00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:48,079 stop stone or capstone 1186 00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:50,160 or ukrainian board member vladimir 1187 00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:51,839 crossanolovitz and you don't know how 1188 00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:54,319 happy i am when i can say that 1189 00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:56,400 utilizing large pyramid 1190 00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:58,240 recently built by the russian national 1191 00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:00,720 academy of science in the ukraine 1192 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:02,880 has discovered that the immune system of 1193 00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:05,520 organisms increased upon exposure in a 1194 00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:06,800 pyramid 1195 00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:10,960 up to one to five days 1196 00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:12,640 showed a thirty percent increase in 1197 00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:13,920 yield 1198 00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:16,240 violent weather seems to decrease in the 1199 00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:17,839 area of the pyramid 1200 00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:19,760 and the potency of pharmaceuticals 1201 00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,480 increased with decreasing side effects 1202 00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:24,720 and the pyramids 1203 00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,040 design the strength of various viruses 1204 00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,160 and bacteria decreases in the pyramids 1205 00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,319 ordinary water does not freeze even at 1206 00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:34,480 40 degrees below zero 1207 00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,680 and remains its properties for years 1208 00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:39,440 while synthesized diamonds turn out 1209 00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:41,119 harder and purer when placed in the 1210 00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:42,640 pyramids 1211 00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,839 since i've had an interest in the 1212 00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:45,599 pyramids and a few other subjects for 1213 00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:47,599 years i felt honored when i was 1214 00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:50,079 recommended by jeff franz the radio host 1215 00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:52,480 of sightings on the radio and asked to 1216 00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,839 join the advisory board with dr desalvo 1217 00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,839 pyramid research may well be the most 1218 00:48:01,829 --> 00:48:00,000 difficult i've ever attempted 1219 00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:01,839 after all it's not going to be easy for 1220 00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:04,400 any of us to prove much less convince 1221 00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:06,079 the world that the great pyramids of 1222 00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:08,720 egypt may not be egyptian 1223 00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,400 keep in mind that tourism is big 1224 00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:12,400 business and they will not relinquish 1225 00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:13,839 that easily 1226 00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:16,319 in my research i'm referring only to the 1227 00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:19,040 three pyramids of giza and the sphinx 1228 00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:20,800 i do not believe if 1229 00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:22,880 if not all of the other pyramids of 1230 00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:25,599 egypt may have been built by egyptians 1231 00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:27,200 but they're when they're studied it 1232 00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:29,119 seems obvious to me they're simply poor 1233 00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:31,760 replicas of the original three based on 1234 00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,400 the workmanship the much smaller size 1235 00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:37,200 and the lack of technology involved 1236 00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:38,720 none of the pyramids anywhere in the 1237 00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:40,640 world compare with the three pyramids of 1238 00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:46,790 the factual information about the 1239 00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,119 pyramids against someone like myself 1240 00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:51,599 that devoted 36 years to civil 1241 00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:54,559 engineering is almost incomprehensible 1242 00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:56,240 let me share a few of those facts with 1243 00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:57,760 you before we talk about some of the 1244 00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:03,510 the great pyramid of giza is composed of 1245 00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,040 two and a half million blocks of 1246 00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:07,440 limestone which weigh two to seventy 1247 00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,640 tons each 1248 00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:10,400 you could build thirty empire state 1249 00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:13,440 buildings with that much material 1250 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:16,400 the base of the pyramid covers 13 acres 1251 00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:19,200 and has a volume of 90 million cubic 1252 00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:20,240 feet 1253 00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:25,760 equivalent to a 48 story building 1254 00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:28,319 there are 203 courses or steps to the 1255 00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:30,079 summit 1256 00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:32,160 each site slopes up right at an angle of 1257 00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:35,599 exactly 51 degrees 51 minutes and each 1258 00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:37,599 side has an area of five and a half 1259 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:40,000 acres while less than a fiftieth of an 1260 00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,880 inch separates some of the stone blocks 1261 00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:44,640 construction of the great pyramids was 1262 00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:47,119 no accident whoever built them knew what 1263 00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,349 some of our assumptions about the 1264 00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:53,760 pyramids of giza being older than we've 1265 00:49:57,910 --> 00:49:56,240 been told are derived from the sphinx 1266 00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:57,920 for many years the body of the sphinx 1267 00:50:04,549 --> 00:49:59,920 was protected by sand that completely 1268 00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:06,390 further study the sphinx now indicates 1269 00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:07,760 to many researchers that the 1270 00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:09,839 deterioration of the sphinx 1271 00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:12,240 body was not caused by wind and sand but 1272 00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,510 there has not been that volume of water 1273 00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:19,359 in that area of the world for over seven 1274 00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:21,520 thousand years which predates egyptian 1275 00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:23,040 civilization 1276 00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:24,960 that today takes credit for the sphinx 1277 00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:34,230 there seems to be some similarity 1278 00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:36,880 between the face of the sphinx today 1279 00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:38,000 and 1280 00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:40,640 what it was 1281 00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:43,839 how many years back ten thousand 1282 00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,880 so 1283 00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,800 in closing 1284 00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:48,720 i'd like to close with the quota i like 1285 00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:50,319 to use 1286 00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:52,319 always telling the truth means never 1287 00:51:02,230 --> 00:50:54,720 having to remember anything